Interview with Dwight Pratt by Jason McGarry for the

                   AAUP Oral History Project, Center for Oral History,

                   University of Connecticut, April 7, 2001.

 

          McGARRY:  Where and when were you born?

          PRATT;        June 11, 1919 in Hartford, Ct.

                   JM:    Can you tell me a little about your early life?

                   DP:    I lived on Norfolk Road in Torrington most of my

                             life.  I worked in a hardware factory for a while. 

                             When I was a teenager I worked on some of the                                   farms in Norfolk.  Stayed right at the farm.  Left

                             there.  I did a lot of hunting and fishing.  Just liked

                             country life.  Raised all our own vegetables.  It

                             was a small farm.  Had our own cows, chickens and

                             everything else.

                   JM:    What was your occupation before you entered the

                             service?

                   DP:    I was on the farm.

                   JM:    That was the only job you had before?

                   DP:    Yeah.

                   JM:    Did anyone in your family serve in WWI?

                   DP:    No.  Not that I know of.

                   JM:    So were you the first one ever in the service?

                   DP:    As far as I know.

                   JM:    Where were you when you heard about the                                bombing of Pearl Harbor?

                   DP:    I was at home with my father.  I had a brother.  My

                             brother was home.  Must have heard it on the radio.

                   JM:    Do you remember what your reaction was when                         you first heard about it?

                   DP:    I was surprised.  Could hardly believe what was

                             happening. 

                   JM:    Did you know anything about the Japanese or the

                             Germans before the war?

                   DP:    Japanese, they were talking peace then attacked

                             Pearl Harbor.  The Germans, I guess I had an

                             attitude about Hitler.  The way he did things.  I

                             always have been a real old-fashioned American.

                             Proud of my country.

                   JM:    What do you think the general attitude of the

                             community was when Pearl Harbor happened?

                   DP:    Everybody got behind all the servicemen.  Every-                       body pitched in. 

                   JM:    What were some of the things you saw them do

                             pitching in?

                   DP:    I joined up in ‘42.  Up until then people were

                             sacrificing.  They did what they could.  They were

                             getting ready for rationing.  All the men had to go

                             to war; the women went to work in factories.

                   JM:    Did you know anybody who was against

                             enlisting?

                   DP:    No.  I didn’t know too many who enlisted but my                      father wasn’t too anxious to have me enlist.

                   JM:    When did you enlist?

                   DP:    May of ‘42.  I went to Ft. Devans.  Had four

                             four months training there.  They shipped me                                       overseas in September ‘42.  We didn’t go

                             directly to Europe.  We landed in Iceland for some

                             reason.

                   JM:    What did you do in Iceland?

                   DP:    They started forming an anti-aircraft unit.  We

                             stayed in Iceland a couple of months I guess.                  

                             Then they assigned most of us into infantry.  They

                             had asked me if I knew much about guns and of

                             course my father always had a lot of guns home

                             and I was a hunter and had a lot of experience with

                             guns.  Had a lot of training on different kinds of

                             weapons. 

                   JM:    What were some of the weapons you trained on?

                   DP:    Machine guns, bazookas, M1 primary rifle.  The

                             Springfield rifle was more or less for sniping.  All

                             kinds of grenades and stuff like that.

                   JM:    Did you train in Iceland?

                   DP:    Some of it but then they shipped us to Lands End

                             in England.  Got a lot of training there.  Special

                             training.

                   JM:    Like what?

                   DP:    I was put into the 424th Infantry regiment.  We did

                             a lot of special training.  One of our officers was

                             from the Rangers.  He gave us a lot of special

                             training.  Hand to hand, scaling walls, rough

                             terrain, different kinds of terrain’s, camouflage.

                   JM:    Did they train you in urban warfare?

                   DP:    Yeah.  House to house.

                   JM:    What happened after the training?

                   DP:    We didn’t get sent in on D Day itself.  The place

                             was loaded with people.  Troops everywhere.

                             Machinery.  Unbelievable the amount of stuff that

                             was there.  We crossed the Channel a few days

                             after D Day.  We reached the beach in France and

                             there was still some fighting going on but it wasn’t

                             as bad as the first waves that went in.

                   JM:    Do you know what beach you were on?

                   DP:    Omaha beach.  We fought our way inland.  More or

                             less of a regiment just by ourselves.  We were

                             quite a few soldiers but we weren’t like a division

                             or anything.  By that time I had made sergeant.

                   JM:    Were you in command of people then?

                   DP:    A platoon.  Maybe twenty people.  Then after a

                             while there was so many sergeants, there were

                             really too many sergeants because it felt like

                             every time you turned around somebody was a

                             sergeant.  We had a lot of tough times.  Ardennes

                             Forest, Hertigen Forest, Battle of the Bulge - we

                             were pretty well broken up.  Scattered all over.                  

                             Took us a while.  Some of them didn’t make it

                             anyway.  We finally gathered together enough to

                             make a fighting unit out of it anyway.  From there

                             on it was the Germans last push anyway.

                             Christmas - December.  The hardest part a lot

                             of time was the darn weather.

                   JM:    What kind of weather?

                   DP:    If it wasn’t mud it was snow.  A lot of mud in

                             France into Belgium. Ardennes Forest.There was a             

                             lot of mud in there too.  Battle of the Bulge was in

                             December.  A lot of snow on the ground.  It got

                             awful foggy.  That’s how the Germans took

                             advantage of the fog because we didn’t have any

                             air cover.  The airplanes weren’t able to operate.

                             Our intelligence didn’t foresee that I guess.  I

                             don’t know why.  The Germans put everything

                             they had into that.  They had tanks coming at you.

                             I was standing there with a rifle.  What you going

                             to do there?  Of course after the fog lifted the air

                             corp came in and took care of them - killed them

                             in the tanks.  We were able to do something.  We

                             were walking in a forest there.  It was bad getting

                             shelled with artillery, mortars.  We were lucky. 

                             The German air force didn’t amount to much by

                             then.  They did strafe a couple of times with some

                             German fighting planes.  they weren’t too in

                             control most of the time.  Want to know about

                             some of the times I was nervous?

                   JM:    Yes.  Anything you want to talk about.

                   DP:    We’d dig in at night so someone would have to

                             do what’s called up post duty.  Two guys - no

                             man’s land between you and the enemy.  The

                             purpose of that was so the unit didn’t get

                             surprised by German patrol.  It was pretty damn

                             lonesome out there.  I few times we had German

                             patrols come by our outpost.  There were only two

                             of us and one time we were in a big bomb crater,

                             staying all night long out there, there was snow

                             on the ground.  I always used to carry extra

                             stockings under my arms inside my clothing.  I’d

                             change my stockings every chance I got.  Take

                             care of my feet because they were wet a lot.  It

                             was just barely daylight and I had just finished

                             changing my socks and I heard  (interviewee made

                             a sound).  The soldier who was with me, he was

                             just a replacement.  He hadn’t had any much

                             much experience.  Got my boots back on, heard

                             something coming through the snow - bunch of

                             people walking.  So I looked over the edge and

                             saw a German patrol coming by.  Eight or ten of

                             them.  I told him, I saw the way they were coming,

                             they were going to se us anyway, coming right

                             toward us practically.  He said what are we going

                             to do.  I said don’t get excited, be ready.  You

                             stay over that side, I’ll stay on this side.  When

                             they get close enough when I say the word just

                             jump and kill them because otherwise they’re

                             going to get us.  We challenged them.  They were

                             surprised.  They didn’t expect anybody to be out

                             there.  So most of them threw their hands up

                             right away.  Lucky.  They were just so surprised.

                             There was a couple - one of them tried to throw a

                             grenade - I had to shoot him.  The other one tried

                             something and I had to take care of him.  But the

                             rest of them we captured them all. 

                             Another time,  I heard a bunch coming by.  There

                             was quite a few of them.  There was like a pile of

                             brush and snow on the ground.  The guy that was

                             with me, he fell asleep.  He was snoring.  I gave

                             him a kick and he stopped snoring.  I told him I

                             think there is Germans coming over.  He woke up

                             and I said if you be quiet I think they’re going to

                             pass us.  There’s too many for two of us to do

                             anything.  So we kept quiet.  They went by - didn’t

                             know we were there.  But it’s things like that that

                             make you nervous.  Then you see some of your

                             buddies go down beside you sometimes.  Bad too.

                   JM:    Did you ever get injured?

                   DP:    No.  Awful close.  Holes through my coat.

                             Shrapnel on my helmet.  I never got wounded.

                             Lot of artillery shells falling around you.  Especially

                             mortars.  At night we used to watch buzz bombs

                             go over.  Wondered if they were ever going to

                             drop.  They just had so much fuel in them.  When

                             they ran out of fuel came down.  Lucky there.

                             Just kept going somewhere else.  It as tough in

                             the winter.  It was cold.  Sitting in a foxhole.  Had

                             one of those sterno cans I used to stick down in

                             the bottom of the foxhole.  It didn’t make any

                             smoke.  Put my poncho over to try and get some

                             heat out of that and dry out a little bit.  Sometimes

                             you were supposed to be relieved.  After being

                             in the front line for a while some other outfit was

                             supposed to relieve you.  Sometimes they didn’t                        make it.  Then you’d get real tired.  Sometimes I

                             felt like I was going to drop standing up.  Just from

                             exhaustion.  You don’t sleep good at night.  When

                             you did get relieved they pulled you back and you

                             got a hot meal.  They put you back in some farm

                             village somewhere.  You got a nice shower.  You

                             get cleaned up.  I used to find a hay mow and go

                             to sleep.  Stay there for a few days then you have

                             to go back in.  That’s the way it was.

                   JM:    Did you go toward Berlin at all?

                   DP:    Went right into Germany.  Not Berlin  - part of

                             Germany.  We had to stay there until they got

                             around to sending us home because the war was

                             over.  The Germans didn’t want any more than we

                             did.  They were Hail Hitler all the way.  There was

                             a lot of regular soldiers.  We talked to a lot of

                             prisoners.

                   JM:    What were they like?

                   DP:    For one thing they were really surprised because

                             Hitler was always telling them that Americans don’t

                             know how to fight.  They don’t know how to be

                             soldiers or nothing.  German soldiers I talked to

                             were really surprised how brave the Americans

                             were.  They couldn’t believe it.  They’d been brain

                             washed.

                   JM:    Was there anything they said that surprised you?

                   DP:    Yeah.  They talked about Christmas and stuff.

                             They had families.  They didn’t want the war -

                             didn’t want to fight.  Some of them gave up real

                             easy.  Seemed like some of them were just glad to

                             get captured.  Some of them got sent back here to

                             the States after the war was over.

                   JM:    Do you have any memories of basic training?

                   DP:    Not that I remember.

                   JM:    What was homecoming like?

                   DP:    Took the train to Hartford.  Took a bus to

                             Torrington.  My father picked me up and brought

                             me home on Norfolk Road.  It was great to get

                             home and catch up on everything and my father

                             and my brother and everything.

                   JM:    Do you remember if anything was changed in your

                             community?

                   DP:    Not too much.  I was anxious to get back into

                             civilian life.

                   JM:    Where did you work then?

                   DP:    I started to work at the factory for a little while.

                             Then I decided to take up a trade so I worked

                             with a plumber and I kind of like it so I studied,

                             kept working at it, and got my license. 

                   JM:    Did the VA help you with that?

                   DP:    No.

                   JM:    What was the most important thing you got out of

                             the war?

                   DP:    Just makes you wonder why they have to have

                             wars.  Feel sorry you have to have wars to decide

                             things.  Too bad nations can’t get along better.

                   JM:    If there was anything today’s generation should

                             have learned from the war, what would it be?

                   DP:    I would wish they were good Americans and be

                             proud of their country and do what they can to

                             make the country proud.  When there is a crisis

                             they should stay behind the country.  If the country

                             needs you you should be there.

                   JM:    Is there anything you would like to add?

                   DP:    Thousands and thousands of people went through

                             it.  A lot of them never came back.  It was a great

                             sacrifice to make.

 

End of Interview.