Harold Papineau
May 7, 2001
Helen
Carolinas Full Interview
HP: How did you become aware that there was a war?
HC: We had drills in school. I was in the 7th grade at St. Joseph’s.
It was three stories high and every month
we would have a bombing drill and we would all have
to run downstairs when the bell rang.
There were bowling allys in the
basement of our school and we would
run downstairs to the bowling allys and learn
how to crouch down and stay that way until the all-clear
sounded. And that was my first
awareness, really of the war. Of course there were rations too. We had
rationing for meat and for butter and for sugar
and for nylons. But it never seemed to
really, we lived, it never seemed to touch
us. When we had the blackouts, those were very scary, again I was young, and I was more scared then if I were a
few years older. We never knew when there was going to be a blackout and we'd hear the sirens and
myself, I think that maybe I was about
13, and my young brother, we didn't know
that it was a test. Maybe nobody knew it was a test except the people
that were ringing the bells, I don't
know. But I remember sitting in the living room with my mother and
my brother, frightened, everything
pitch black out like you wouldn't
believe, and praying. And hearing planes go over and not knowing that they
were only regular planes. We thought maybe they were the Germans or somebody. And after it would be all over, my mother would say, "Dziekuje
Bogu", which means thank God in
Polish, that nothing happened to us during
this. It was scary.
HP: Do you remember how the war was portrayed in
any films, or on the radio or through
music?
HC: Oh sure.
All the music was sad, like "Cliffs of Dover", "Don't sit under the Apple Tree". That was about
a boy who went away and didn't want his girlfriend
to go out with anybody until he came back.
All the songs were sad,
melancholy. The movies, of course we didn't go to that many movies, but the
movies were about the war and of
course the good guy always came out
fine. John Wayne, I mean he won the whole war almost, that's what we saw in the
movies. We had no Television.
HP: So do you think that you got your perception
of the war through the eyes of Hollywood?
HC: I don't know. Yes, yes I did in this sense, it was very glamorous when you saw the John Waynes' and the Patricia O'Neils' all dressed up in their
uniforms, looking spic and span all the
time, even when the bombs are falling. And being in love. Yea, I think I
did. I never thought of it before, but
yes.